Post Malone and Camila Cabello are battling for Singles Chart supremacy once again
Post Malone is taking some moving from the Official Singles Chart top spot – it looks like his track Rockstar will sit at Number 1 for a fourth week.
The track, which features 21 Savage is 4,000 combined chart sales ahead in today’s Official Chart Update, once again leaving Camila Cabello’s Havana ft. Young Thug at Number 2. Camila did perform Havana at yesterday’s BBC Radio 1’s Teen Awards, however, which may cause an uplift for a track. Watch this space as Post Malone and Camila’s chart rivalry rages on.
Climbing for an 11th straight week, up six places to a midweek position of Number 3, is Marshmello and Khalid’s Silence. The masked DJ/producer has announced his next single will feature Selena Gomez.
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Rounding out the Top 5 are Avicii and Rita Ora at 4 with Lonely Together, and Sam Smith’s Too Good at Goodbyes, which drops a spot to Number 5.
New entries and high climbers
Ed Sheeran’s Perfect rises five places to Number 6 today, very close to reaching its peak position of Number 4 that it achieved back in April with Ed’s album ÷ was released.
Taylor Swift’s Gorgeous is set for highest new entry this week and begins at 10. Charlie Puth’s How Long and Young Dumb & Broke by Khalid could break the Top 20 for the first time; they leap four and two places respectively to 18 and 19. Meanwhile, Rita Ora’s new track Anywhere starts at 20 following high-profile performances on The Jonathan Ross Show and BBC Radio 1’s Teen Awards.
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Liam Payne’s steamy new single Bedroom Floor is new at 25 on today’s Update, ahead of Krept & Konan’s Ask Flipz ft. Stormzy at 28. George Michael’s Freedom ‘90 could make its way back into the Top 40, currently at Number 30 following a reissued 7” vinyl.
Finally, following her performance of the song on Channel 4’s Sunday Brunch, Anne-Marie’s Heavy could enter the Top 40 for the first time, up four slots to 39.
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Piran
The official video for 'Havana' should be out tomorrow, so hopefully that'll give it enough of a boost to overtake 'Rockstar' by Friday.
The gains for 'Silence' & 'Perfect' in the Top 10 are good to see & while I love that 'Gorgeous' is at #10 for now, given how fast it's sales are falling, I don't think it'll be charting anywhere near that high on the actual chart unfortunately. :/
Gameskiller01
I would love for it to get a big enough gain to pass 'rockstar', but I simply don't see it happening. If YouTube views counted to the charts as they do in the US, maybe, but otherwise I don't see it. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic. I'll hold out hope, as I have been doing for the past month or so ever since it started looking like a contender for #1.
Piran
Like I said in another reply to you, as long as 'Havana' doesn't drop for three consecutive weeks, it's still in with a chance. It'll probably challenge 'Rockstar' until the start to middle of November, but if it's not at the top after that, it's over for 'Havana'. At least it hit #1 in Scotland though. :)
Either way, it could be the third biggest song of the year not to reach #1, after 'Castle On The Hill' & 'Galway Girl' of course.
Gameskiller01
That is very true. I'm still hoping that it can hold out for long enough for 'rockstar' to be hit with the 300:1 ratio, even if that is over a month away. The biggest chances it's got are if it gets a huge bump this week because of the Teen Awards and the music video, combined with a drop from 'rockstar', or if 'rockstar' continues to drop at such a rapid pace as I mentioned in another reply.
I'd put it at the 4th biggest not to hit #1. 'Unforgettable' was (and is) a massive hit, and ironically it seems like you forgot it. :D
Gameskiller01
Although this reminds me: what allows a single to go back from a 300:1 ratio to the normal 150:1 ratio? 'Perfect' must've been hit with the ratio in it's first chart run, but I would seriously hope that it's now back on the 150:1 ratio. Is it just if a song sees 3 consecutive weeks of gain?
Piran
'Rockstar' seems to be gaining in both sales & streaming though, so I don't see that happening just yet, considering that the official video for 'Rockstar' is probably coming too.
Haha, yeah, apparently 'Unforgettable' is currently in the Top 10 biggest songs of 2017 so far & it does have good staying power after all, even if it is under the 300:1 streaming rule now.
Piran
Yeah, I think if it gains for three consecutive weeks, it'll go back to the 150:1 ratio.
In that case, it's definitely back on the normal ratio now, hence why it's blasting up the chart each week! :)
Gameskiller01
'rockstar' seems to be gaining in sales, but as I said in a reply to you on the main chart, it seems to be decreasing fast in streams (at least on Spotify). In the past 3 days it's pattern in the UK has been: 627,000 - 575,000 - 494,000, while 'Havana's pattern has been: 388,000 - 393,000 - 334,000. The gap between them has shrunk from 239,000 to 160,000 in just 3 days.
Gameskiller01
Makes sense. I originally predicted that 'Perfect' would re-enter the lower reaches of the Top 10 at best, and that it didn't have a chance of beating it's personal best of #4, but it seems like I could be wrong. :D It's not doing great on streams though (on the streaming chart 'Shape of You' is still above 'Perfect', which makes me wonder how much better 'Shape of You' would've done if it wasn't for the 300:1 ratio.
Piran
So are those the streaming figures, or the overall figures?
Here's how 'Havana' could get to #1: it gains at least once before 'Rockstar' hits Week 8 on the chart & 'Rockstar' continues to drop over the next few weeks. That way, 'Rockstar' would fall to the 300:1 rule before 'Havana', meaning that the latter would be very likely to hit the top given there was no other major release.
Haha, why did the OCC make the formula so complicated? :P
Piran
It could be that 'Shape Of You' is still doing good on streams, but yeah, 'Perfect' is mostly as high as it is overall thanks to sales.
Gameskiller01
Those are the figures for the amount of daily streams each track got in the UK (as shown by the UK Top 50 playlist on Spotify). Obviously I have no idea how either track is doing on other streaming services, but on Spotify the gap is closing rapidly. I've no doubt that it will level out a bit, but even if it just stays where it is they've come a lot closer. The reason they both had such a big drop on the last day is because those are the figures for Sunday, while the first and second are for Friday and Saturday, respectively, which obviously have much higher streaming figures than the rest of the week. But while 'rockstar' lost significantly on the Saturday, 'Havana' gained, albeit slightly.
Yeah, the rules are pretty complicated, but because I have such an obsessive nature and because my current obsession is 'Havana' getting to #1, I worked that if 'Havana' gains by any amount on it's 14th week on the chart, it'll still have the normal ratio on it's 16th week on the chart. This is important because 'Havana's 16th week on the chart is 'rockstar's 10th week on the chart. If 'rockstar' declines on it's 8th, 9th and 10th weeks on the chart, and if 'Havana' gains on it's 14th week, 'Havana' will go to #1 (provided no other songs overtake it in that time, obviously).
Foxes
I bring good news this morning! Not only did both of the comments that got detected as spam on this account (my 2nd one) get unmarked as spam (which is why you'll now see 2 near-identical replies to one of your comments on the main chart), but 'Havana' has also gained!
While the gap between it and 'rockstar' has gained slightly on Spotify since yesterday (160,000 - 171,000), 'Havana' saw a 15.57% gain while 'rockstar' only saw a 12.75% gain! This could definitely mean that good things are to come.
'Havana' has also shot back up to #1 on Google Play after falling to #3 yesterday (with 'rockstar' down at #3 now), and it holds steady at #1 on iTunes. I don't think it'll have enough of a lead in sales to pass 'rockstar' (since, even for 'Havana', streams still make up 2/3 of it's combined sales. Streams make up 4/5 of 'rockstar's sales), but the gap is definitely closing and 'Havana' should see an increase in sales this week!
EDIT: 'Havana' is also #1 on Deezer in the UK, with 'rockstar' at #2. While Deezer makes nowhere near as much of an impact on the charts as Spotify, this is still promising to see.
candog75
Not quite - basically a song which is on the 300:1 ratio can go back to 150:1 if either
a) The song has a 50% increase in sales/streams in one week or
b) at the request of the publisher. This is what happened with Perfect and allows them to promote new singles from current albums
Once a song is back on the 150:1 ratio the counter gets reset to zero allowing them to have a least 9 weeks at this ratio.
Foxes
So if a song gains 43% in one week, 35% the next and 47% the next, it won't go back to the normal ratio unless the publisher requests it? I feel like they need to change it so if a song gains by more than 10% for 3 consecutive weeks that should also put it back on the regular ratio.
Also, if 'Havana' were to fall to the 300:1 ratio, could Camila's label just request for the normal ratio to be re-applied on the grounds that 'Havana' could still be a prime contender for #1?
Piran
Oh, fair enough, thanks for clarifying.
50% seems too much in my opinion, so I see a lot of people putting a lot of promotion into songs that have been on the charts for around 11 weeks & are declining in performance.
Do the annual charts take these new streaming rules into account, or are all songs on that based on the 150:1 ratio?
Piran
I'm pleased to hear that you're having less trouble with your comments on Disqus than you were earlier in the week. :)
It's a shame that YouTube doesn't count towards the charts in 'Havana's case, because it's both #1 on views & trending over here right now (as well as the rest of the world). A good sign is that it increased its lead on iTunes & 'Rockstar' fell back. 'Rockstar' appears to have about a lead of 150,000 daily streams on Spotify in comparison to 'Havana' though.
Tomorrow, I'm predicting about a 1,000 total figure lead for 'Rockstar', but it's really too close to call this week to be honest. I don't see any more chances (other than a discount) that 'Havana' could have after tomorrow.